Brené with Roxane Gay and Debbie Millman on Love, Life and the pursuit of Creative Space Brené with Roxane Gay and Debbie Millman on Love, Life and the pursuit of Creative Space
February 10, 2021

Brené with Roxane Gay and Debbie Millman on
Love, Life, and the Pursuit of Creative Space 

A conversation with two unforgettable creators: Debbie Millman and Roxane Gay. Debbie is a designer, author, educator, and the host of the award-winning podcast Design Matters; and Roxane is a writer, editor, cultural critic, and co-host of the podcast Hear to Slay. Roxane and Debbie are newlyweds, and we talk about their love story, creativity, and the power of a dinner party. Their words and art have been very influential in my life – talking to them about the ins-and-outs of ordinary life is, in itself, extraordinary.

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Guest Info

Roxane Gay

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Roxane Gay is a writer, editor, cultural critic, and co-host of the podcast Hear to Slay. Her writing appears in many publications including Harper’s Bazaar, Virginia Quarterly Review, McSweeney’s, Town & Country, American Short Fiction, A Public Space, and many others. She is a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times, where she also writes the “Work Friend” column. She is the author of the books Ayiti, An Untamed State, Bad Feminist, Difficult Women, and Hunger. For Marvel, she wrote World of Wakanda. She edited Not That Bad: Dispatches from Rape Culture, The Selected Works of Audre Lorde, and Best American Fiction 2018. She has several projects forthcoming.

Debbie Millman

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Debbie Millman is a designer, author, educator and the host of the award-winning podcast Design Matters, one of the first and longest running podcasts in the world. She is also co-founder and chair of the world’s first graduate program in branding at the School of Visual Arts; editorial director of Print magazine; and the author of six books on design and branding. She has worked on the design and strategy of over 200 of the world’s biggest brands and is currently Chair of the Board of Directors for Law & Order SVU actor and activist Mariska Hargitay’s Joyful Heart Foundation.

Roxane Gay Shares 6 Favorite Songs. Click to listen now on Spotify
Roxane Gay Shares 6 Favorite Songs. Click to listen now on Spotify
Debbie Millman Shares 5 Favorite Songs. Click to listen now on Spotify
Debbie Millman Shares 5 Favorite Songs. Click to listen now on Spotify

Show Notes

Writing into the Wound: Understanding Trauma, Truth, and Language

Writing into the Wound: Understanding Trauma, Truth, and Language by Roxane Gay (Scribd Originals; available February 12) is an unforgettable, deeply personal look at how trauma has shaped her life and work—and the impact of trauma on all of us. Gay covers difficult subjects—from racism to sexuality to misogyny to politics to workplace issues, and more. Her bracing honesty, insightful opinions, and luminous prose are beloved by readers around the world. She unpacks this experience for the first time and provides readers with valuable lessons for processing and writing about their own trauma.

Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts and the first ever podcast about design and an inquiry into the broader world of creative culture. Broadcasting independently for 16 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives.

Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body by Roxane Gay

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